Posts by Pete Zahut

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the wt view of your christian ancestors

by waton in

most jws to day come from families that have a long, or short line of christian family members.

given that since christ, only 80 per year on average were deemed by wt to be true followers of him, worshipping the father, worthy of life, and there is, in wt's view, no redemption for those at variance with " the truth", .

do they realize that billions of sincere partakers are actually condemned by wt teachings?

Pete Zahut

To me it's amazing that 2021 years later people still acknowledge and look to Jesus as Gods son and their savior. They may not all agree on the details but the big chunks of Christianity is the pretty much the same. JW's condemn non JW's because they say they aren't engaged in "true worship" but at the same time, the JW doctrine has been tweaked, changed, revamped and thrown out entirely on a regular basis since it's beginning and will continue to be changed. Not one thing they've ever claimed has come about so how are they really different than anyone else?

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What “Secret Sins” Do You Think Many JWs Are “Guilty “ Of?

by minimus in

jw
friends

i know a lot of witnesses that drink a lot!

secret sins people would confess to the elders were masturbation, dating and touching certain areas and anger issues.

some fathers/husbands looked like model figures until you heard from the family that the dictator ms were horrible at home in more ways than one..

Pete Zahut

Thought crimes.

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Belgium: Jehovah's Witnesses in court to respond to incitement to hatred

by yalbmert99 in

belgium: jehovah's witnesses in court to respond to incitement to hatred.

february 16, 2021.. https://www.levif.be/actualite/belgique/les-temoins-de-jehovah-devant-le-tribunal-pour-repondre-d-incitation-a-la-haine/article-news-1392951.html.

Pete Zahut

It used to be that a person attended the Kingdom Hall voluntarily and but were convinced to check their human rights and rights as a Citizen, at the door. Hopefully those days are little by little becoming a thing of the past.

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The Bible speaks of the "Unforgivable Sin" ? What is it ?

by smiddy3 in

do any jehovah`s witnesses or ex jehovah`s witnesses even know what that sin is ?.

why is such a statement in the bible if its not identified what that sin is ?.

were the authors of the book just playing with peoples heads ?

Pete Zahut

Unforgivable sin?? Claiming to be directed by Gods Holy Spirit and misleading millions of people with misinformation about him and continuing to do so decade after decade even when time has proven you to be a fraud.

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Robbing your child of a normal upbringing

by RiverPeace in

happy to be joining you!.

i am a 75 year old, who was baptized in 1968. had the full-on jw experience.

elder since 1974. reg pioneered 20 years.

Pete Zahut

We're all a work in progress and we strive to do better, once we know better. The only ones who should be wracked by guilt are those who continue in the same course once they are aware they've gone wrong and those who refuse to acknowledge the effect they've had on others.

People throughout the world raise their children with their family or cultural ways and in the religion that they believe in and you were no different. It's what parents are supposed to do. I'm not saying that he doesn't have a legitimate complaint but you may have raised your son as a Lutheran or Presbyterian and he'd have had a whole different set of things to attribute his troubles to and it would be no less or no more, your fault. Imagine what complaints a kid who was raised as a Christian Scientist may have when he or she leaves, especially if he was denied medical treatment and ended up with long term consequences.

It seems (as it is with many) dependance on a religion may have left him with a case of arrested development. When he left the religion in his 40's, he may have only had the emotional maturity of a much younger person. Being a JW who believed they would never grow old, made it easy for most all of us to plateau emotionally and not face up to lifes realities little by little as we grew up. Instead, we had to face these realities all at once. Many are never able to face this and stick with the religion long after they no longer believe. Both those who leave and those who choose to stay, sometimes turn alcohol to ease the utter pain this causes. The thing is, this could have happened with just about any religion depending on how deeply involved one became with it.

I'm guessing you didn't hold your parents responsible for the outcome of your life once you were an adult and didn't expect them to solve your problems and wouldn't even have wanted them to. It seems to me that all you can do is acknowledge your son's pain and let him know you are on his side.

Get some counseling yourself and see what a professional has to say about this situation. Maybe do a little research on "arrested development" and see what the treatment for it is. Typically it has to do with drug/alcohol addiction but it can be attributed to just about any activity that short circuits or hinders a persons emotional development. It may be helpful to become informed on Cults and the residual effects left on a person once they leave one and what it takes to deprogram them and free them of the guilt/fear they may still be carrying.

Growing up a JW definitely has an effect on a person but there are millions who've come through much worse and gone on to have happy lives. If you continue bearing the guilt, it may give him the idea that you are responsible for the outcome rather than him.

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New Light on Sheep and Goats?

by notsurewheretogo in

lloyd evans has just tweeted a video he will be releasing soon on the "change" to the meaning of the sheep and goats and when that is to occur.. i've missed any discussion on that on here or anywhere?

it seems it was part of the 2020 annual meeting the gb had?.

any info on this?.

Pete Zahut

This change means that for all these decades, they haven't been preaching "the truth" in fact they've been spreading incorrect information throughout the world . Good thing Arma-giddy-boom didn't' come after all.

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Can we stick to topics that we came that we came to this forum in the first place?

by James Jack in

i don’t care about politics, books you are reading, movies and tv programs you’re watching, etc..

Pete Zahut

It's interesting to hear how others are doing and/or what they're thinking about or experiencing as members of regular society. As we all suspected, we are so much more than just former JW's and have more to talk about than criticism of our former religion.

If that's not enough, there's years of JW doctrinal discussions on record if you do a search.

You'd think AM3 would be running low on scotch by now and sneaking out of the compound.

Makes me wonder if Amazon delivers to Bethel and if so do they ship booze in a plain unmarked box?

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Wife told me a tale about a letter writing experience and my BS meter was like "uhhh ya rightttttt"

by goingthruthemotions in

so me and my pimi wife are driving today and normally we don't talk anything about her stupid cult.

because it will end up with me saying something and her getting p.o'ed.

well anyways i have been trying to just ignore the bs and keep my mouth shut.

Pete Zahut

The non JW said, " I just got a letter from a Jehovah witness and it was such a encouraging letter, in fact I keep it with me here in my purse and pulled out the letter.
(LOL ya righttt)
The JW said, " I write letters, is there a name on the letter?"
the NON JW: " yes the name is ******."

The JW said: Thats my name, I wrote that letter.

Non JW said: Thank you for confirming your name. I'm a Subpoena server and I've been following you. You're being served for using the U.S Postal Service to harass private citizens and solicit Cult membership.

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Are faders like me just cowards? Should I show my face?

by Witness 007 in

i feel bad i just faded away and did not "come out" as an apostate hater.

my mum died refusing blood and still i hang back my wife still has witness friends and goes to the memorial every year..

Pete Zahut

There is no good way to leave the JW's and that's how you know it's a Cult or at the very least, Cult-like.

Fading isn't cowardly, it takes just as much courage to face the fears JW's have imposed on you but doing so takes away or at least limits their power over you and the havoc they can wreak on you life.

Fading takes strength in the form of "self control" because you don't get to have your say...no immediate gratification because you don't get to blow everyone who has deceived you, out of the water the way you'd probably like to. You don't get to share what you've learned, with your friends and loved ones. Instead, you have the difficult task of keeping things to yourself...biding your time for the sake of damage control.

I lost both my Father who was studying with JW's and my Elder Father in Law (48) because of the JW lies regarding blood transfusion. I faded and rather than tell everyone I know about what happened, I've bided my time and have been able to make a bigger impact by subtly pointing my family and loved ones to information that has opened their eyes without causing them to run in the opposite direction.

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the GB has just cancelled the next two years

by neat blue dog in

even some democrats are advocating for reopening society, and are at least hoping for some point in 2021, but the governing body just announced that they're canceling the assemblies in 2022 as well, aiming to restart in 2023. .

they're really milking this 'pandemic', because as soon as things go back to normal that sense of urgency will start to die again, and publisher counts / meeting attendance will go down as well.

i wonder how many jws are suffering form (additional) depression from this as well, because with meetings, assemblies and conventions at least you could see and meet new people, as well as socialize.

Pete Zahut

the Governing Body just announced that they're canceling the assemblies in 2022 as well, aiming to restart in 2023.

Whoo hoo....what a relief it must be for those in charge...they have an almost 2 year break from having to come up with material and organizing assemblies.

I wonder how many JWs are suffering form (additional) depression from this as well, because with meetings, assemblies and conventions at least you could see and meet new people, as well as socialize.

I'm guessing any additional depression that may be caused by isolation might be offset by the absence of anxiety caused by the weekly doom and gloom sessions which are part and parcel of the end times cult they belong to. I'm sure the impact the meetings may normally have on individuals, has been lessened by viewing them via zoom.

Much of the civilized world is on hold, but perhaps JWs even more so, as they can't turn to 'worldly' people for companionship and their already small community is now even smaller.

I live in the epicenter of Covid and most of the Churches around here have been meeting in big Marquee tents set up in their parking lots, ever since this whole mess started. They know the value of in person association and that meeting online doesn't have the same impact. They prove how much they trust that "god's Holy Spirit" will keep them safe. (Not saying they should) but JW's don't put their faith to the test as much as they claim to.